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#1  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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Reddit Leak

Size comparison to original Switch

Leaked performance discussion from Era

* Handheld: Right above PS4* before DLSS

Docked: Between PS4 Pro* & Xbox Series S* before DLSS with more modern hardware than the former

* RAM: Slower than PS5 & XSX|S in the speed department, but more capacity than XSS. Should have 10.5-11 GB of RAM available to games going by the Switch 1's RAM allotment for its OS.

* Storage: UFS 3.1's max speeds should be a hair under XSX|S (2.1 GB/s vs. 2.4 GB/s), still plenty fast even if not maxed out.

Lines up with what Digital Foundry & NateDrake heard about decompression techniques & fast load times of the BotW tech demo (respectively for each source).

* = Not only is the Switch 2 ARM-based rather than x86 like the systems compared, it's also Nvidia vs. AMD. There are plenty of factors at play to where it's not an apples-to-apples comparison. Plus the native Tensor cores of the Switch 2 will allow for DLSS, letting the system punch above its weight & decrease the size of the gap between it & the XSS. Nintendo could throttle down the SoC to the floor, but I'm not sure it'll be a doomsday scenario since this is a custom chip to begin with.

Joycons

Real or nah? Looks like a legit prototype to me. I wouldn’t expect the final product to look too much different.

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#2 Chutebox
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Hope it's fake. I don't want freaking joy cons.

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#3 R4gn4r0k
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@Chutebox said:

Hope it's fake. I don't want freaking joy cons.

They're the best if you want artritis.

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#4 SecretPolice
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Not interested but curious, no price estimate.

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#5 GirlUSoCrazy
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Hopefully the better specs will mean more modern 3rd party games will release for it, and hopefully the games won't require mandatory downloads due to cart space cost.

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#6 Pedro
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The rumors claim that it would be on PS4 level but folks are not concerned about it "holding" back this gen.🤔

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#7 Archangel3371
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Loving the bigger screen. 👍

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#8  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@Pedro said:

The rumors claim that it would be on PS4 level but folks are not concerned about it "holding" back this gen.🤔

It has more RAM than the Series S, so there’s that… 🤣

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#9 Chutebox
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@R4gn4r0k: and drift.

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#10 pillarrocks
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My hands will cramp holding that large screen.

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#11 GhostOfGolden
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@Chutebox said:

@R4gn4r0k: and drift.

I’ve changed sticks in joycons and Switch Lites more often than I’ve changed batteries in my Xbox controllers. Nintendo has to fix that next gen right? Right??

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#12 onesiphorus
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Did we need a separate "Switch 2" rumor thread as there is one already?

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#13 GirlUSoCrazy
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@pillarrocks said:

My hands will cramp holding that large screen.

I guess it depends how much it weighs. There will probably be a Lite version eventually, or maybe a lighter OLED model.

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#14 my_user_name
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I wonder which brave publisher will be the first to release an 8th gen port for $70

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#15 Litchie
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Looks uncomfortable.

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#16 my_user_name
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@Pedro: Baffling stance those cats have... feels like games have regressed in physics/interactivity over the past decade .

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#17 PSP107
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@my_user_name: "I wonder which brave publisher will be the first to release an 8th gen port for $70"

Ubisoft, EA or Nintendo themselves are the main contenders.

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#18 GhostOfGolden
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@my_user_name said:

@Pedro: Baffling stance those cats have... feels like games have regressed in physics/interactivity over the past decade .

BotW had better physics/interactivity than HZD… Huh?!

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#19 R4gn4r0k
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@ghostofgolden said:
@Chutebox said:

@R4gn4r0k: and drift.

I’ve changed sticks in joycons and Switch Lites more often than I’ve changed batteries in my Xbox controllers. Nintendo has to fix that next gen right? Right??

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@Pedro said:

The rumors claim that it would be on PS4 level but folks are not concerned about it "holding" back this gen.🤔

plenty of people are still on PS4

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@ghostofgolden said:
@Chutebox said:

@R4gn4r0k: and drift.

I’ve changed sticks in joycons and Switch Lites more often than I’ve changed batteries in my Xbox controllers. Nintendo has to fix that next gen right? Right??

They could use Hall effect sticks. Should solve the problem. They already exist for the Switch.

....I mean they won't. Nintendo leaving all that joycon sales money on the table!? Hell no! ......I'm just saying they could. They won't. But they could. Won't though....

Anywho I hope the rumour is false. It looks like a literal Switch 2.0 which would be a bit disappointing. But not entirely surprising either after the success of the Switch and after what happened with the Wiiu. Still i would be hoping for a twist of some sort. Something to make it stand out more. it looked like flappy paddle buttons were on the joycons in the render, but then in the pic of the actual one it looks like a hole rather than a button. The wait for flappy paddles becoming standard continues it seems :(.

The rumoured performance point is about what I am expecting. PS4 in portable mode. PS4 pro when docked. But it will have a few more tricks up it sleeve compared to the PS4 and X1 and even the PS5 (though not the pro) and XSX. .....Well one trick really. Hell of a trick though in fairness.

Assuming the Switch 2 is using the T239: it will be interesting to see how usable the Ray tracing is on it and how much developers can squeeze out of it. On the one hand Nvidia do hit harder pound per pound on the RT front. On the other though....it's a really small GPU. Even if it's 2X the RT chops of the steam deck (which is certainly possible)....will developers pay it much heed on the Switch 2?

Anywho I hope the Switch 2 is more interesting than that.

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@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

The rumors claim that it would be on PS4 level but folks are not concerned about it "holding" back this gen.🤔

It has more RAM than the Series S, so there’s that… 🤣

😆 Pedro got rekt!

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#23 my_user_name
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@PSP107: I could see it being Rockstar with RDR2 as well.

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#24 Chutebox
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@ghostofgolden said:
@Chutebox said:

@R4gn4r0k: and drift.

I’ve changed sticks in joycons and Switch Lites more often than I’ve changed batteries in my Xbox controllers. Nintendo has to fix that next gen right? Right??

If they use joy cons again, going sell them without opening the box and get 8bitdo controller.

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#25 GirlUSoCrazy
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@Chutebox: That's a good move. Those things are too thin and flat to hold onto comfortably.

That reminds me though, when this thing is released there will be a flood of crappy 3rd party accessories that comes with any new system launch...

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#26 Effinae
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All I really care about is games running at 60fps and backwards compatibility WITH improvements to those games. I'm honestly perfectly happy if it still runs 1080p in docked mode. Smooth framerates over resolutions all day every day.

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#27 TheEroica  Moderator
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Don't know if it's real, but I'm a meh on that design. I got too comfortable with the third party ergonomic grip on switch that fit my adult sized hands... The joycons and size hover around that area of serviceable and uncomfortable... My hope was that Nintendo would see the benefit of ergo joy cons, but it's not a huge deal. Third party grip.

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#28 judaspete
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I wish "handheld" systems would stop getting bigger.

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#29 Pedro
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@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

The rumors claim that it would be on PS4 level but folks are not concerned about it "holding" back this gen.🤔

It has more RAM than the Series S, so there’s that… 🤣

Series S performs better than the One X and it sports less RAM 😂 Try harder next time.🤭

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@Pedro said:
@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

The rumors claim that it would be on PS4 level but folks are not concerned about it "holding" back this gen.🤔

It has more RAM than the Series S, so there’s that… 🤣

Series S performs better than the One X and it sports less RAM 😂 Try harder next time.🤭

In many cases the Series S ran at lower resolution than the One X

This is getting too easy… 😂🤣😂🤣

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@Pedro said:

The rumors claim that it would be on PS4 level but folks are not concerned about it "holding" back this gen.🤔

No because the switch in most cases get missed by most of the 3rd party multiplats.

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#32 Pedro
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@ghostofgolden said:

In many cases the Series S ran at lower resolution than the One X

This is getting too easy… 😂🤣😂🤣

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#33  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@Pedro said:
@ghostofgolden said:

In many cases the Series S ran at lower resolution than the One X

This is getting too easy… 😂🤣😂🤣

Loading Video...

Did you watch that?

The X has more memory - and memory bandwidth - than the Series S, but has much lower quality texture work regardless. Other visual settings look similar enough, and the resolution split is 900p vs 1080p, with the One X coming out on top.”

AC Mirage

Xbox One X - 1728p

Series S - 1080p

Persona 3 Reload

Xbox One X - 1440p

Series S - 1080p

Like A Dragon

Xbox One X - 1080p

Series S - 720p

Wo Long

Xbox One X - 1440p

Series S - 1080p

Are you even trying anymore?

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#34 Pedro
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@ghostofgolden: Maybe you should have read my comment without tears in your eyes before responding with your sad deflection to resolution 😂

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#35 PCLover1980
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I believe these leaks cos of how fucking jaggy the edges are, meaning no AA whatsoever

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#36 SolidGame_basic  Online
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@Pedro: look, Golden got you, just leave while you can

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@Pedro said:

@ghostofgolden: Maybe you should have read my comment without tears in your eyes before responding with your sad deflection to resolution 😂

Deflection to resolution? I wonder if the lack of RAM and lower memory bandwidth have ANYTHING to do with the resolution differences… 🤔🤔🤔

😂🤣

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#38 Pedro
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The ignorant cosigner has entered the chat 😂

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#39 Pedro
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@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

@ghostofgolden: Maybe you should have read my comment without tears in your eyes before responding with your sad deflection to resolution 😂

Deflection to resolution? I wonder if the lack of RAM and lower memory bandwidth have ANYTHING to do with the resolution differences… 🤔🤔🤔

😂🤣

"Series S performs better than the One X and it sports less RAM". Reading and comprehension is important. Now spin and deflect 😂

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#40  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@Pedro said:
@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

@ghostofgolden: Maybe you should have read my comment without tears in your eyes before responding with your sad deflection to resolution 😂

Deflection to resolution? I wonder if the lack of RAM and lower memory bandwidth have ANYTHING to do with the resolution differences… 🤔🤔🤔

😂🤣

"Series S performs better than the One X and it sports less RAM". Reading and comprehension is important. Now spin and deflect 😂

I said that in many cases the Series S ran at a lower resolution than the One X, and you posted a DF video that shows the Series S ran at a lower resolution in all but 1 game they tested.

Reading comprehension is important. I agree! 🤣😂🤣😂

And remember, YOU brought the Xbox Series S into this thread/conversation

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#41  Edited By Pedro
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@ghostofgolden: 😂 You keep missing what my comment and the video focuses on is truly entertaining.🤭

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#42 GhostOfGolden
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@Pedro said:

@ghostofgolden: 😂 You keep missing the portion of my comment and the video focuses on is truly entertaining.🤭

The portion where the Series S has a MUCH better CPU and a newer, more efficient GPU architecture? That was never part of my discussion. You brought up the Series S when taking a jab at Nintendo “holding back” gaming with weak tech. I responded with the fact that the rumored specs include more RAM than the Series S has and you got butthurt.

Maybe keep your feelings out of tech discussion next time?

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#43  Edited By Pedro
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@ghostofgolden said:

And remember, YOU brought the Xbox Series S into this thread/conversation

You sure about that?🤭

@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

The rumors claim that it would be on PS4 level but folks are not concerned about it "holding" back this gen.🤔

It has more RAM than the Series S, so there’s that… 🤣

When you are too busy being triggered by my name, you can't even keep up with yourself 😂

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#44 Pedro
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@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

@ghostofgolden: 😂 You keep missing the portion of my comment and the video focuses on is truly entertaining.🤭

The portion where the Series S has a MUCH better CPU and a newer, more efficient GPU architecture? That was never part of my discussion. You brought up the Series S when taking a jab at Nintendo “holding back” gaming with weak tech. I responded with the fact that the rumored specs include more RAM than the Series S has and you got butthurt.

Maybe keep your feelings out of tech discussion next time?

See above, you rekt yourself because "the feelings" 😂

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#45  Edited By SolidGame_basic  Online
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Golden put Pedro through the announcer table

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#46 GhostOfGolden
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@Pedro said:
@ghostofgolden said:

And remember, YOU brought the Xbox Series S into this thread/conversation

You sure about that?🤭

@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

The rumors claim that it would be on PS4 level but folks are not concerned about it "holding" back this gen.🤔

It has more RAM than the Series S, so there’s that… 🤣

When you are too busy being triggered by my name, you can't even keep up with yourself 😂

“Folks are not concerned about it holding back this gen” is a jab at folks saying the Series S was holding back the Series X. And if that wasn’t the case, the parity clause would still be intact… 🤭

You’re so defensive over the Series S its got you running in circles 🤣😂

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#47 Pedro
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@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:
@ghostofgolden said:

And remember, YOU brought the Xbox Series S into this thread/conversation

You sure about that?🤭

@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

The rumors claim that it would be on PS4 level but folks are not concerned about it "holding" back this gen.🤔

It has more RAM than the Series S, so there’s that… 🤣

When you are too busy being triggered by my name, you can't even keep up with yourself 😂

“Folks are not concerned about it holding back this gen” is a jab at folks saying the Series S was holding back the Series X. And if that wasn’t the case, the parity clause would still be intact… 🤭

You’re so defensive over the Series S its got you running in circles 🤣😂

Spin, spin, spin. Your words and your self ownage.😂

@ghostofgoldensaid:

And remember, YOU brought the Xbox Series S into this thread/conversation

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I'm just hoping for backwards compabilty, and 1080p and 60fps.

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#49 omegaMaster
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I hope its backward compatible

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#50  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@ghostofgolden said:

Reddit Leak

Leaked performance discussion from Era

* Handheld: Right above PS4* before DLSS

Docked: Between PS4 Pro* & Xbox Series S* before DLSS with more modern hardware than the former

* RAM: Slower than PS5 & XSX|S in the speed department, but more capacity than XSS. Should have 10.5-11 GB of RAM available to games going by the Switch 1's RAM allotment for its OS.

Seems a bit fishy. How will docking have such a huge impact on performance. And why would that even be needed. Also instead of a minor overclock the jump would be significant enough for developers to have to include a docking mode for games. I don't buy that at all.

And why would it need that much RAM for last gen console performance. Remember the PS4 was competing with a GTX 750 Ti in performance. Even with more RAM it's not really worth it, and it's not really Nintendo's style to over spec areas. Even if it was a GTX 1650 Ti Super OC Turbo hyper fighting whatever... It STILL wouldn't need 12GB of RAM.

These specs are a bunch of people throwing their opinions around on a forum. That handheld vs docked performance, is exactly the kind of thing I'd expect from a forum.

This reminds me of the time the Wii was rumoured to be state of the art and have a PhysX processor in it. Which is laughable considering the lack of advanced use of physics and ai from Nintendo. Developers were laughing at that.